Combat Mission "Red Thunder"
 

For those East Front purists.....
Its almost here...
FLAMETHROWERS INCLUDED =)

http://www.battlefront.com/index.php...330&Itemid=567

http://www.battlefront.com/community...hp?f=124&a=683

I already pre-ordered it.

PBEM games are pretty easy with CM2 there is a community made program called H2Hhelper that works with dropbox to seamlessly transfer the turns.

Graphics look much improved, far better than the earlier CM titles that I had and enjoyed way back.

Am sure you CM fans will have a blast with this newer version SSpoomy.

So....who all is planning to pre-order CMRT? I'm thinking about it and am considering getting CMBN immediately so I can get started immediately.

I don't recall the specifics but I never liked shock force. From what i have read it sounds like the current engine is much improved CMRT is expected to bring additional upgrades.

I have them all I even learned to enjoy cmsf. I already pre ordered Red Thunder.
All the titles are now way more polished than when they came out.

Also a lot more expensive; come in much smaller bites; still missing some CM x1 features (e.g. tank riders not in until Red Thunder); and paid upgrades.

Regardless, let us know what you see as the good and bad of CM x 2 to date--as well as when RT arrives.

Hi Bill,

No need for anyone to wait for us to list good/bad comments, everyone can download the demo for CMBN:

http://www.battlefront.com/index.php...277&Itemid=477

I spent last weekend reading the manual (approx 200 page pdf) and playing one game as American.

Some observations:
- yup, its much more expensive. I have no idea if the amount of programming justifies the price but if I get hooked on CMX2 it will be worth it.
- I have no problem with the paid upgrades, they are not a requirement but it is an advantage that eventually CMBN will have the same engine as Red Thunder.
- command heirarchy is much more complicated than CMX1 but it seems like a good system once one is comfortable with it
- Relative spotting is very different but seems cool. I am having a hell of a time trying to discern who is firing at my units! Last nite I lost a tank from an AT gun but I could not determine where the damn thing was located because the tank's crew was KIA. Later, I found that it was tucked into a group of trees that only had LOS to the specific location I rolled the Sherman into. In CMX1 the AT gun location would have been shown to all.
- CMX2 is more "fiddly" than CMX1, it takes slightly more time to plot. I think this will improve quite a bit once I am more adept with the revised camera controls plus hotkeys but my gut feeling is that the enormous multiple battalion epic battles that were so cool in CMX1 may be overwhelming.
- on board mortars seem straightforward, I have not looked into off-board yet. However, over the weekend some heavy arty was dropping on the German defenders. I didn't call for it so either my CO called for it (without my input!) or German arty was very off-target
- the text within the user interface is really small, small enough that I need to lean forward to see it. Unfortunately, I'm getting old and getting too close to the screen doesn't work as well as it used to....its only a matter of time till I get bifocals!

I encourage everyone to download the demo and give it a chance. Spend some time reading the posts on the Battlefront forum.

I'm willing to commit to purchasing CMBN immediately and putting in a pre-order for Red Thunder but i'd like to know that some of you guys are likely to follow. Id also be OK just getting the Red Thunder pre-order if nobody wants to spring for both immediately.

CMBN tactics from a real Lt. Col.
 

While waiting for my daughter's dance class to end (dance dad, haha), I just finished watching the second episode of this series:

http://www.armchairgeneral.com/comba...a-video-series

This is great stuff, I recommend you check it out. At a minimum, watch the second episode. There is no way you guys can watch this without getting the itch to dive into CMX2!

Off to episode 3!

I downloaded and tried the first release version of the CMBN demo. Didn't like it much. Will give CM x 2 another try if they issue a RT demo and time permits. Lots of family stuff going on with my Aunt in rehab and moved up here from 2 counties south.

Just wait until your eyes top 6 decades!

Red Thunder is now out....
Bill, the first evolution of CM2 was terrible.
I quit playing it in a few weeks.
The game engine is much improved over the early versions, and well worth annother look.
Koz is right the armmchair general CM series is excellent and well worth a watch.

I'm downloading it now!

Koz you can find Me and Soldier most evenings at the TS server on this page

http://www.sowmp.com/gcm/

C2 visible lines are back
The leadership in control lines that were
not in CM2s have been brought back

Demo is available. For discussion and more details, including link to demo, see:

https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=...al/EtHvh1nT27M

P.S.--demo and game also in Mac flavor.

That demo for CM-BN almost sent me back off of trying CM again after all of these 10+ years. Thought just couldn't get anything straight still as to how to move around and all that artillery and spotters, mortars? I spent hours trying to figure that camera out and couldn't get it done. No more right click and there is the movements.. Couldn't get past that part.

Thank goodness CM1 was still able to try and play again. Did that 2.0 patch simplify movement of the camera any then, as compared to the earlier (CM1-3) titles?

I'd like to try playing some PBEM games again with you guys on the earlier engine if any are willing. Bill and I are just now starting one and would like to startup another cpl if possible.

Mark

I'm still playing all of the CM2 titles from CMBN on.
Although it takes some time to get used to the changes these games
are (imho) better than the first cm series, I would love to see some of
my KG friends play.

Wow--hard to believe that later this year it will have been a full decade since CM x 2 was launched.

Haven't followed too closely, but it appears that CM x 2 WW II series currently consists of 3 or 4 base games (all in all covering parts of the ETO, Italy and the Eastern Front). It looks like they sell serial updates for each of the games and are currently up to versions #4.

Is most of the H2H game play done in real time, WeGo or some other method? Is it most often played like the SOW series; by way of email or in some other fashion?

I play we-go as do most of the players that I am aware of.
There is a slick setup for email games that makes file swapping
nearly flawless. It is a combination of free programs called CMhelper
and Dropbox. After the initial first file transfer CMhelper automatically
uploads the turn to a shared Dropbox folder and alerts your opponent
that they have a turn waiting. I have all the games and expansions
including the modern Black Sea title.

People still frequenting this forum? Holy crap... agcent2@gmail.com to get a hold of me.

Yup--I check in every now and then.

Rob--are you still in NB or SA area?

Check it out also now and then.. hoping another will drag out CMBB or CMAK again and give it a spin..

Have found a few guys over at TheBlitz that are great people after weeding out some last few years since reloading the classic games.