This thread -
http://www.armchairgeneral.com/forum...ad.php?t=50131 is exactly the kind of thing i refering to in my above post as to why i have to refrain from posting in a thread such as this. I belive this is what Frank was eluding to as well. I wouldnt even know where to begin with someone like this guy. His is from a whole different planet. Then you have another guy stepping up to validate his arguement and he ties the Civil War into statement like "disgusting tyranny of unconstitutional madmen like Lincoln" and "We are secure in ourselves and don't need to use any region of the de facto empire to blame for our shortcomings, or to use as a strawman for the idiot masses in the failed experiment (democracy)." He then goes on to tell us how southern pride and determination has been around since Jamestown was settled and the southerners have railed against the powers to be in Washington ever since and always will because they are tyrants.
Id love to hear what a shrink would have to say after analyzing these two guys.