The Mother OF All Tank Questions

[KG_Cloghaun]

Putting a regular crew into a Tiger is like putting in the three stooges. It's no wonder they never fired.

Like I said, I'll play you tonight. You can be a crack Panther and I'll take a veteran Tiger. We start at 2000 meters. Best three out of five wins.

[KG_Koz]

this sounds like fun! i'll be logging on later to see what the outcome is

[KG_AGCent]

Sure. 15 turns each, 3 minute turns, 5 minutes to set up.

[KG_Panzerschreck]

What happened? im jumping in my seat in anticipation!

[KG_Cloghaun]

It was more or less a draw. Rob made the mistake of making it a platoon of Panthers (5) vs a platoon of Tigers (4). Since it was already set up I agreed to continue playing.

Anyway it was pretty boring as you might expect. In the end, he bagged two of my Tigers and I nailed 2 of his Panthers. I withdrew 2 Tigers off the map due to gun damage.

[KG_Jag]

So the debate continues....

[KG_Swampfox]

Rematch.......

Rematch......

[KG_SSpoom]

I would like to Import a M1A2 into the game just for shits and giggles,
then lets say we start at 1.5 miles........sorta like the end of " A few Dollars More"......key the chimes

[KG_Panzerschreck]

Ill still take the Tiger.

[KG_Panzerschreck]

I asked this question over at SZO and its started quite the debate over there as well. here is a copy of my latest response. id like to pose the same questions to you guys.


"I dont know why everyone is always knocking the Tigers mobility and "breakdownableness". sure the early ones broke down alot but so did the Panther. as a matter of fact the Panther had a worse mechanical record than the Tiger to start with. the Tiger came into its mechanical own with the middle and late models. as for mobility, i agree its no speed demon, but it was quite fast for a 56 ton tank. its biggest problem in my humble opinion was its slow turret traverse.

it just comes down to the numbers. i cant remember where ive read them at, when i find them ill link them, but the Tiger wins hands down in kill ratios and survivability percentage by tank. the numbers are so lopsided it isnt even close. i know some will say that the kill ratios are lopsided because of the elite crews that were in more Tigers than Panthers but that begs the following questions -

1. if the Pather was such a great all round tank, and better than the Tiger, why didnt its inherant "Pluses" outweigh the differance in crew experience, and especially kill ratios if the gun was so much better than the Tigers?

2. how does that explain the survivability factor? the Tiger i belive had 100mm frontal armor with no slope while the Panther had 100mm with 60 degrees of slope. you'd think the Panther would win the front armor battle but it doesnt. why is that?"

here is the link to the thread over at SZO - http://www.strategyzoneonline.com/fo...ad.php?t=31244