Go Back   Kampfgruppe Forums > Military History > Modern Day Conflicts

 
We are happy to announce open registration on the KG forums has begun! Welcome everyone!

Reply
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Unread 09-20-2007, 01:28 PM
KG_Cloghaun's Avatar
KG_Cloghaun KG_Cloghaun is offline
Oberste Befehlshaber
Generalleutnant
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Michigan
Posts: 1,984
Send a message via MSN to KG_Cloghaun
Default US Forces capture Iranian Officer operating in Iraq

U.S. forces seize Iranian in Iraq

Officer accused of smuggling bombs for elite Quds force

The Associated Press



SULAIMANIYAH, Iraq - An Iranian officer accused of smuggling powerful roadside bombs into Iraq for the elite Quds force was arrested Thursday, the military said.

The suspect — a member of the Quds Force, an elite unit of Iran’s Revolutionary Guards — was detained in the Kurdish city of Sulaimaniyah, the military said.

He was allegedly involved in transporting roadside bombs, including armor-piercing explosively formed penetrators, or EFPs, into Iraq, according to a statement. It said intelligence reports also indicated he was involved in the infiltration and training of foreign fighters in Iraq.

Officials have said the Bush administration is expected to soon blacklist the Quds force as a terrorist organization, subjecting part of the vast military operation to financial sanctions. The move would be in response to Iranian action in Iraq and elsewhere.

URL: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12370498/
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Unread 09-20-2007, 02:45 PM
KG_Soldier's Avatar
KG_Soldier KG_Soldier is offline
General der Panzer
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Eden
Posts: 2,417
Default

Here's what I don't get. Okay, during the '80s, we (the USA) openly supported Mujahadeen in Afghanistan fighting the Soviets. We gave most our support to Afghan resistance fighters on the Pakistani side of the border. However, many special forces teams went into Afghanistan on missions to train the Mujahadeen on how to use high tech mortors, stingers, ect. The Soviets had done the same thing to us in Vietnam, and China even more so in Korea (all out fighting). So other than it's them (the Iranians) against us (the USA), what are they doing that's different from what we did to the Soviets during the '80s in Afghanistan?

Now, this doesn't mean I don't wish they'd stop and help us stabilize Iraq, but I mean, isn't there a bit of hypocrisy?
__________________
"Only the dead have seen the end of war."
Plato
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Unread 09-20-2007, 04:12 PM
KG_Kharkov's Avatar
KG_Kharkov KG_Kharkov is offline
Generalleutnant
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 2,025
Default

Of course there is. But we're Americans dammit!
__________________


"Blessed is the man who does not walk in the counsel of the wicked or stand in the way of sinners or sit in the seat of mockers. But his delight is in the law of the Lord, and on his law he meditates day and night. He is like a tree planted by streams of water, which yields its fruit in season and whose leaf does not wither. Whatever he does prospers." Psalms 1:1-3
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Unread 09-20-2007, 04:36 PM
KG_Cloghaun's Avatar
KG_Cloghaun KG_Cloghaun is offline
Oberste Befehlshaber
Generalleutnant
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Michigan
Posts: 1,984
Send a message via MSN to KG_Cloghaun
Default

You're either with us, or against us, Mark...




Reply With Quote
  #5  
Unread 09-20-2007, 04:45 PM
KG_SSpoom's Avatar
KG_SSpoom KG_SSpoom is offline
Oberstleutnant
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 1,335
Default

ROFLMAO! Were Americans were are allowed to be hypocrites dammit.
If you dont like it.....well lets just say your on "The short list ya damn terrorist!"
__________________
Let us cross over the river and rest under the shade of the trees...
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Unread 09-20-2007, 06:03 PM
KG_Kharkov's Avatar
KG_Kharkov KG_Kharkov is offline
Generalleutnant
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 2,025
Default

You're part of the Axis of Evil until you stop your nuclear program at which time you are part of the Axis of Folks We're Apathetic About. You are then free to go on repressing your citizens as you see fit, or starving them if that's what you are into.

If you have no nuclear program, like the Darfur region, you are on the Axis of People Below the Equator That Don't Mean Much to US, also known as the AOPBTETDMMTU. It should be noted the AOPBTETDMMTU is an equal opportunity policy embraced by both Republican and Democrat administrations.
__________________


"Blessed is the man who does not walk in the counsel of the wicked or stand in the way of sinners or sit in the seat of mockers. But his delight is in the law of the Lord, and on his law he meditates day and night. He is like a tree planted by streams of water, which yields its fruit in season and whose leaf does not wither. Whatever he does prospers." Psalms 1:1-3
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Unread 09-20-2007, 07:08 PM
KG_Swampfox's Avatar
KG_Swampfox KG_Swampfox is offline
Leutnant
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Duluth, Minnesota
Posts: 1,017
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by KG_Kharkov View Post
You're part of the Axis of Evil until you stop your nuclear program at which time you are part of the Axis of Folks We're Apathetic About. You are then free to go on repressing your citizens as you see fit, or starving them if that's what you are into.

If you have no nuclear program, like the Darfur region, you are on the Axis of People Below the Equator That Don't Mean Much to US, also known as the AOPBTETDMMTU. It should be noted the AOPBTETDMMTU is an equal opportunity policy embraced by both Republican and Democrat administrations.
Put in a way only a corporate lawyer could think of.

Far more care goes into saving endangered species, than the untold millions of humans of the AOPBTETDMMTU varity. Hell of a civilization we have here..........
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Unread 09-21-2007, 08:29 AM
KG_Kharkov's Avatar
KG_Kharkov KG_Kharkov is offline
Generalleutnant
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 2,025
Default

For sure, don't build your beach house too close to protected wetlands where you may endanger the habitat of the rare sea toad. But genocide in Darfur -- well, we'll get to that after we finish debating whether to let North Korea continue to have access to Ipods and Playstation 3s.
__________________


"Blessed is the man who does not walk in the counsel of the wicked or stand in the way of sinners or sit in the seat of mockers. But his delight is in the law of the Lord, and on his law he meditates day and night. He is like a tree planted by streams of water, which yields its fruit in season and whose leaf does not wither. Whatever he does prospers." Psalms 1:1-3
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Unread 09-21-2007, 01:48 PM
KG_Jag's Avatar
KG_Jag KG_Jag is offline
Vice Kommandir
Generalfeldmarschall
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: New Braunfels, TX & Reno, NV
Posts: 3,762
Default

Yes--the U.S. spies and provides arms and support to our Allies and the enemies of our enemies. What world or even regional power doesn't? Further the same was true with regard to UK, U.S., Soviet Union, Japan and Germany in the 1930's. Then as now--there is no moral equivalency among the "similar" state actions.

Our enemy in this case, however, supports both regional and world wide terrorism. It has an expressed desire to commit genocide and wipe at least one country off the map. This same country, Iran, clearly threatens both U.S. and western interests, as well as world peace. Meanwhile the U.S. worries about offending a third world neighbor because it is putting up barriers to stop citizens from said third world country from illegally entering the U.S. in extremely large and increasing numbers on one of its two open borders.
__________________
“A government big enough to give you everything you need is strong enough to take everything you have.” Thomas Jefferson--the first Democrat President
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Unread 09-21-2007, 03:11 PM
KG_Soldier's Avatar
KG_Soldier KG_Soldier is offline
General der Panzer
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Eden
Posts: 2,417
Default

So we get to judge "moral equialency"? Because we say they support terrorist, they should stop? I support Israel, but Palestinian "terrorists" are different from Islamic fundamentalist "terrorists." Because Iran is a threat to us in THEIR part of the world, they should stop? Because every Arab Nation and Iran have made similar statements about wiping out the Jews (even though none have actually tried very hard), we should consider them all enemies? Because they don't do what we want them too, they threaten world peace? How do we not threaten world peace? It's time to let the Jews fend for themselves. They're really quite resourceful and would manage okay on their own.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 02:58 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.3
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.